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EVOLUTION IS FACT



...regardless of whether or not you choose to believe it.

this is a really interesting video of Ken Miller, a biology professor at the university of colorado and devout catholic.

he talks about the inherent flaws with the intelligent design argument (including the bacterial flagellum motor and so-called "irreducible complexity") and some updates on the absolutely shameful attempt by creationists to insert non-science into science class rooms. next they'll be teaching the scientific merit of astrology.

...discuss.


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Evolution is not without unknowns. SCIENCE is not without unknowns. That's what science is about. It is always changing with new evidence.

So why is it that evolution is being singled out in this case? Why aren't we talking about Einstein's theory of relativity having holes? And why are these attacks on evolution all coming from thinly veiled religious groups.

Christians see evolution as a direct threat to their creation story and therefore a direct threat to their religion. They can't see the two being able to exist at the same time because it's all or nothing to most of them. And it's from that frame of mind that they attack evolution. If one part may not work, the whole thing has to be thrown out.

That's just not how science works. Scientists are constantly re-evaluating evidence, testing hypotheses. Evolution is constantly being tested by a number of different areas of science and it just keeps holding up. Intelligent design collapses under the same scrutiny.

Posted by Devon on Friday, September 08, 2006 at 9/08/2006 08:47:00 AM |

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Posted by Blogger THE MOLITOR | 8:52 AM  

Some interesting articles responding to Ken Miller...

http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=1144

http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=1147

http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=1364

http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=267

Posted by Blogger THE MOLITOR | 11:16 AM  

i am well aware of the discovery institute's claims on knowledge of evolution.

HERE is a little info on them.

the problem with creationists arguments is the logical falicy they always end up with.

there are gaps of knowledge in evolution, to be sure. creationists fill those gaps with "god did it." this is known as the "god of the gaps" argument (see #7 on the link.) This is simply not science.

anyone is perfectly welcome to believe whatever they want about the origin of our species. you are even welcome to send your kids to schools to teach them whatever you would like. if you want to believe "god did it" fine. if you think we were planted here by aliens, go for it. that doesn't make it true.

the fact remains, evolution is a prooven, solid theory (see it's definition pertaining to science.) the problem with intelligent design, is that it is mearly creationism with a more scientific name. creation is a religious concept, not a scientific one and therefore should not taught as science is our public (taxpayer funded) schools.

Posted by Blogger Devon | 11:46 AM  

Just because a scientific theory supports creationism, does not mean that it is creationism. Intelligent Design is by all means scientific because it uses the natural world to draw it's conclusions. It doesn't start from the Bible and then go from there to make any theories. Therefore it can be completly separated from any connections to Christianity or creationism. In other words, you are not required to believe in creationism or Christianity in order to support Intelligent Design. It doesn't prove the existence of God, but merely supports it.

Evolution has not been proven. If it had been, it would not be considered a theory but a fact, and there would be no means for debate. There is absolutely no evidence that shows the change in species over time. There is a lot of evidence supporting natural selection, but this does not prove evolution. And if you hold to carbon basing, there are far too many problems with that to be discussed in a comment section of a blog.

I enjoy discussing your opinions, but do not pass off such theories as fact. Proven theories are irrefutable. And evolution, by all means, is not irrefutable.

Posted by Blogger THE MOLITOR | 2:57 PM  

I can't see evolution and "intelligent design" coexisting at all. Where are the parallels? Don't get me wrong I very much agree with the evolution side of the argument but it does not jibe with the bible. Evangelicals will not allow it will they? Besides there is no middle ground at all like you said.
I am skeptical with some of Leakey's conclusions also but the foundation of what he is trying to say is pretty good stuff.
I would not call all of evolution 100% irrefutable though. That is talking in absolutes which is what the creationism proponents talk in.
I guess I have more questions than answers though.
Like why are some species relatively unchanged over millions of years?

Posted by Blogger Stew | 1:07 AM  

Intelligent Design collapses under the weight of a fucking marshmallow.

Posted by Blogger Kara | 11:39 AM  

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